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DeepSeek V3 vs Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
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Winner summary
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 wins on 7/7 benchmarks
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 wins 7 of 7 shared benchmarks. Leads in arena · knowledge · math.
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Hype vs Reality
Attention vs performance
DeepSeek V3
#45 by perf·no signal
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
#66 by perf·no signal
Best value
DeepSeek V3
1.4x better value than Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
DeepSeek V3
97.5 pts/$
$0.60/M
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
68.0 pts/$
$0.82/M
Vendor risk
Mixed exposure
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DeepSeek
$3.4B·Tier 1
Alibaba (Qwen)
$293.0B·Tier 1
Head to head
7 benchmarks · 2 models
DeepSeek V3Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
Chatbot Arena Elo · Overall
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +41.6
DeepSeek V3
1358.2
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
1399.8
Fiction.LiveBench
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +25.0
Fiction.LiveBench · a continuously updated benchmark using recently published fiction to test reading comprehension and reasoning, preventing data contamination.
DeepSeek V3
50.0
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
75.0
FrontierMath-2025-02-28-Private
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +6.8
FrontierMath (Feb 2025) · original research-level math problems created by mathematicians, testing capabilities at the boundary of current AI mathematical reasoning.
DeepSeek V3
1.7
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
8.5
GPQA diamond
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +31.4
Graduate-Level Google-Proof QA (Diamond set) · expert-crafted questions in physics, biology, and chemistry that are difficult even for domain PhDs.
DeepSeek V3
42.0
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
73.4
Lech Mazur Writing
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +8.0
Lech Mazur Writing · evaluates creative writing ability, assessing prose quality, narrative coherence, and stylistic sophistication.
DeepSeek V3
77.0
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
85.0
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +70.9
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 · simulated American Invitational Mathematics Examination problems testing advanced problem-solving skills.
DeepSeek V3
15.8
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
86.7
WeirdML
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 leads by +5.0
WeirdML · tests models on unusual and adversarial machine learning tasks that require creative problem-solving beyond standard patterns.
DeepSeek V3
36.1
Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507
41.0
Full benchmark table
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3 | Qwen3 235B A22B Thinking 2507 |
|---|---|---|
Chatbot Arena Elo · Overall | 1358.2 | 1399.8 |
Fiction.LiveBench Fiction.LiveBench · a continuously updated benchmark using recently published fiction to test reading comprehension and reasoning, preventing data contamination. | 50.0 | 75.0 |
FrontierMath-2025-02-28-Private FrontierMath (Feb 2025) · original research-level math problems created by mathematicians, testing capabilities at the boundary of current AI mathematical reasoning. | 1.7 | 8.5 |
GPQA diamond Graduate-Level Google-Proof QA (Diamond set) · expert-crafted questions in physics, biology, and chemistry that are difficult even for domain PhDs. | 42.0 | 73.4 |
Lech Mazur Writing Lech Mazur Writing · evaluates creative writing ability, assessing prose quality, narrative coherence, and stylistic sophistication. | 77.0 | 85.0 |
OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 OTIS Mock AIME 2024-2025 · simulated American Invitational Mathematics Examination problems testing advanced problem-solving skills. | 15.8 | 86.7 |
WeirdML WeirdML · tests models on unusual and adversarial machine learning tasks that require creative problem-solving beyond standard patterns. | 36.1 | 41.0 |
Pricing · per 1M tokens · projected $/mo at 10M tokens
| Model | Input | Output | Context | Projected $/mo |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| $0.32 | $0.89 | 164K tokens (~82 books) | $4.63 | |
| $0.15 | $1.50 | 131K tokens (~66 books) | $4.86 |